Piaggio shows high performance hybrid two wheeler

"Top speed of 100 kmh far faster than your average performance car" In what universe is 100kmh faster then an average performance car. I have never driven a street legal vehicle with a top speed of less then 100kmh (60mph).

Michael Mantion

- November 14, 2009 @ 11:11 pm CST

I just realised that the author was trying to say it gets to 100kmh faster then a performance car. That isn't saying much, most 2 wheeled vehicles have high power to weight ratio allowing for snappy acceleration. Comparing the acceleration of a 2 wheel vehicle to that of a car is just silly.

If this were a diesel scooter and not a hybrid I might be impressed.

Michael Mantion

- November 15, 2009 @ 01:11 am CST

I don't understand why Piaggio has such an affinity for naming their bikes after existing technology. All that serves to do is confuse people. First the MP3 and now a USB. I think I might hold out for the DVD or the much smaller bike 'SIMcard'. :)

Raum Bances

- November 15, 2009 @ 10:11 am CST

I tend to agree with you Michael, back a few decades ago a friend of mine conducted a little impromtu race out in front of his parent's home. He was in his brother-in-laws Dodge that was equipped with a 426 Hemi while I was on my Yamaha 80cc Trail bike. And yes my 80cc bike did beat the 426 Hemi off the line albeit was only for the 1st foot or 1/3 meter. It's all in the physic I suppose.

nostarme

- November 16, 2009 @ 08:11 am CST

The average consumer has difficulty changing an accustomed behavior, any chance of making a product familiar helps lend an 'air' of acceptability. To ride on to the coat tails of an existing, albeit successful, product, ie. i _____ (fill in the blank) implies an association.

NOWAKOWSKI.CRAIG

- November 16, 2009 @ 08:11 am CST

I love this site - the best info on new cool stuff - ever!

But I do not understand your fascination with motor cycles - I have had way too many friends maimed or killed on these things.

You don;t report on new guns as far as I can tell.

Who cares how fast or how far they go - they are just death traps.

BSW

- November 16, 2009 @ 11:11 am CST

@Michael Mantion

It accelerates to 100kph faster than a performance car.

Brian Callender

- November 16, 2009 @ 07:11 pm CST

I have ridden motorbikes all my life,,,,,I'm now 65,,,,,,,,,,never had an accident,,,,,,,,,never fell off apart from a broken chain on a Bonneville in the 70's,,,,

robinyatesuk2003

- November 17, 2009 @ 04:11 am CST

I come here to read about motorbikes - keep up the good work

yannick.read

- November 17, 2009 @ 07:11 am CST

Ah, the ggod old `motorcycles are dangerous` cliche. In fact in good ol' England we have an expression "Remember when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous..?" Fact is, it's the training that's dangerous, not the bike.

It's the user who rides without proper protection and under the influence of drugs or alcohol that is truly dangerous... aided of course by the other ill-trained, inebriated, smacked-out cretin in the 4x4 jumping the red because the phone rang. Sure it's a stupid name, but if it's green, economical AND fast, who's going to complain?

Now all they have to do is DO it. (File under: `Italian motorcycle manufacturer promises`)

snave

- November 17, 2009 @ 04:11 pm CST

I'm with the majority who think BSW has missed the point. As any enthusiast for two-wheeled vehicles has long known, the industry is a crucible for technological development, and innovation is commercialised far more rapidly than, say, the passenger vehicle industry. Regardless of whether you ride or not, the products of the "motorcycle" industry should always hold interest for anyone keen to see where things are going in the real world.

John Lethlean

- November 17, 2009 @ 06:11 pm CST

I have heard that electric motors develop torque nearly instantly, whereas combustion engines need to 'rev up', hence an electric bike should accelerate even faster than a gasoline powered bike, at least for a short time.

WS1229

- November 17, 2009 @ 08:11 pm CST

While what WS1229 says is true, it is also true that for a given footprint (weight and dimensions) electric motors lack peak power and endurance compared to ICE. But the `balance` of a hybrid is that you play to the strengths of each, while minimising the weaknesses. A `good ` hybrid compensates for the mass of the larger battery by eliminating a transmission for the ICE by using the combustion engine as a generator. The most efficient generator is a diesel. The drive is transferred directly to in-hub electric motor.

Piaggio need to do more than just clay model to demonstrate the efficiencies of the model, but the problem with ALL current two wheel designs is that rely on outmoded, obsolete concepts and technologies - the bicycle-with-a-man-perched-on-top. At least the USB seems to indicate thinking about more modern ways to do things.

snave

- November 18, 2009 @ 06:11 am CST

Electric motors do develop high torque at very low rpm. See the Kila-cycle electric drag bike, where it wins is in the first half of the track. Acceleration is acceleration, car vs bike (sharing the same roads) is a very valid comparison. Often the safety of the motorcycle depends on being able to out perform the four wheeled. And motorcycle technology IS why I read this site.

VFR800fix

- November 18, 2009 @ 02:11 pm CST

it looks like the motorcyclists have won this argument hands down, so to speak !

robinyatesuk2003

- November 19, 2009 @ 07:11 am CST