Shopping? Check out our latest product comparisons

The Green Samba – the first viable electric Personal Water Craft

By

May 19, 2010

The Green Samba – the first viable electric Personal Water Craft

The Green Samba – the first viable electric Personal Water Craft

Image Gallery (19 images)

You're looking at the first exclusive images of what we expect to become the Personal Water Craft V 3.0 – it's the Green Samba. It has the same straight line 65 mph performance of the fastest 260 bhp sit-down PWCs, combined with handling and agility far beyond those of a stand-up PWC. The biggest benefit though, is that the Green Samba uses twin direct drive electric propulsion pods (unit pictured bottom left), so it doesn't directly deliver any hydrocarbons, CO2 or NO2 into delicate marine environments. Equally as important as the lack of noxious gases, the Green Samba is also completely silent, removing one of the greatest causes for complaint against PWCs and no doubt offering respite for those creatures with extremely delicate hearing which live on and under the water. A working prototype of the carbon fiber construction Green Samba will be on the water for testing purposes in Q3, 2010. The pictured action shots (bottom center and bottom right) of the Samba are the most recent development of the internal combustion Carbon Samba we first wrote up this time last year.

Things have been extremely busy at Ohio-based Silveira Group, a design and composites company founded by Rodrigo and Kristen Silveira that specializes in carbon fiber components for high performance applications ranging from race car parts and sulkies for horse racing (trotting) through to high end consumer products such as lightweight suitcases. Silveira Group has been working for five years on a tiny stingray-shaped PWC named the Samba. We first reported on the development of the Samba this time last year and that article should be read in conjunction with this one for the full picture. The Samba looks like a stingray and is ridden in a motorcycle-like crouch and was developed with the specific intent of creating the PWC V 3.0.

The basic premise was that existing PWCs began in a different era – when the now familiar form factors of the sit-down and stand-up PWC were penned, gasoline was far more plentiful and much cheaper, and environmental concerns were the domain of tree-huggers and ecological extremists. From the outset, Silveira's aim was to create a small and lightweight craft capable of changing direction easily, of offering extreme performance from a modest power output because it had less mass to accelerate.

When we wrote up the Samba in April 2009, it had already been through four prototypes, and several more have seen the water since then. The latest iteration has seen the shape and construction refined to such an extent that according to Rodrigo Silveira, just 65 bhp is now required to match the performance of the biggest 240-260 bhp Sea-Doo, Kawasaki and Yamaha designs. But the aim had also been to eventually replace the 800cc twin-cylinder internal combustion engines the company was using in the development process with electric propulsion.

In the last twelve months, the company almost gave up on that process. “I can tell you that making a green watercraft is not easy,” Silveira told Gizmag.

“Our experiments were becoming more discouraging. We knew that the public would not accept lesser performance to go green – being a good citizen does not compensate for being ten mph slower than your friends on their internal combustion skis.

"We wanted to use an electric motor but the amount of energy required to get a jet ski on the plane was so large that it was using too much of the battery capacity. Combustion engines give you the torque you need to get to planing very quickly, without using too much of the available stored energy. We refined everything we could but to get the engine performance we wanted, and sufficient range, we would have needed 150 pounds of batteries which would have impinged on the weight and hence maneuverability too much. We had some sleepless nights wondering if our objectives were achievable with the current state of battery technology."

As the man who split the atom is oft quoted, “we didn't have any money, so we had to think” and it was in going back to the objective and rethinking it that the breakthrough came for Rodrigo. With limited resources and the high burn-rate of funds associated with intensive R&D, Silveira acknowledges that he was on the verge of giving up when the breakthrough came.

“We realized that we had been focusing on the motor, not the pump. In the same way that automotive electric propulsion is just about to go through a revolution of design because it doesn't require the same centrally located ICE we have had for the last 100 years, we began exploring what could be achieved with different propulsion methods.”

“Once we began looking, we came across a propulsion technology originally developed for military applications that had not been previously used in watercraft and we have now acquired an exclusive license for using the technology on watercraft. After testing, we are now confident it makes our objectives possible both weight and price wise.

“With twin electric shaft-less drives of far less modest horsepower output, we are expecting about the same top speed as with the 65 bhp gas engine, which will give us 65 mph. In some ways the US Coast Guard's limit of 65 mph for watercraft has worked to our advantage as otherwise we'd probably be seeing 80 mph watercraft by now. Aiming at a non-moving target of 65 mph has been a huge advantage.

“The PWC is a huge water pump and the existing manufacturers have ignored the inefficiencies of the jet drive system currently in use by pouring horsepower and fuel on it. The inefficiencies in the horsepower-thrust conversion are quite obscene and that's were we've been focusing our energy.

"The propulsion pods we're using have an electric motor self contained within them. Each one has one moving part on the internal wall of the thrust pod, so it's a direct drive and it has eliminated many of the losses and made the system extremely efficient. What started out as a 6 horsepower motor became two 12 horsepower pods that are far more efficient.

The Green Samba – the first viable electric Personal Water Craft

"Our tank tests have proven to us that we can achieve between 34.9 and 36.5 pounds of thrust per horsepower compared to 28 pounds of thrust from a gasoline engine. By going electric and having a self contained pod that isn't connected to anything else other than a power source and a controller, we have achieved a similar freedom of design as automotive designers are now experiencing with electric motors. It means we don't need a big fat motor and a drive train in line with the motor.

"We started out with a single, centrally-located propulsion unit, but along the way, we realized if we made it into a dual pod system we would gain maneuverability by being able to get far more angle on the thrust pods than by using the traditional centrally-located nozzle steering. Then to take full advantage of turning the propulsion units, we had to completely different hull configuration.

“The redesign allowed us to put the pods below the planing line, which allows a more efficient intake and even better performance. With traditional design you can overload the pump, so you have a limitation on the amount of water going into the intake tunnel, but with these pumps we realized that the more we feed the pump, the better the performance.”

One of the benefits from using a lightweight, low-powered craft with such efficient drives is that the range of the unit has now skyrocketed and Rodrigo expects to get more than three hours usage from a full charge – well in excess of the 250 horsepower sit-down PWCs.

The Green Samba – the first viable electric Personal Water Craft

"Our testing so far shows that by getting the two pods on either side of the center line, you can get amazing turning ability. The first tests showed it was a bit too sensitive – it'd tip you off too easily because you just couldn't hold on. The prototype we have planned for August brings all the strengths into focus and… we're confident now we have a viable next generation PWC in every respect, the most important being that we've stemmed the flow of harmful emissions into what should be a sacrosanct pristine environment.

"The world's waterways have been absorbing a disproportionate amount of emissions since the diesel engine became routinely used in watercraft. Most of Europe's lakes and waterways now restrict recreational usage for the very reasons we expect to overcome with the Green Samba.

“We can fix that, and we very excited about the prospects!

We're now prototyping this unit and it'll be ready by the end of August at which time we'll have a working unit and enough costing information to project a ballpark retail price. By the beginning of the fall we'll have that information available and a demonstration unit that'll do all the talking.”

The aim of the Silveira Group is not just to offer a consumer PWC but to be able to deliver customized units for marine research, environmental and other groups with particular needs. Quite obviously, not only environmental and research groups will find the Green Samba's capabilities compelling. Special Forces and other military groups will no doubt find application for a completely silent watercraft with a top speed of 65 mph and a range of more than three hours.

It looks like a winner on paper - we can't wait for the prototype.

About the Author
Mike Hanlon After Editing or Managing over 50 print publications primarily in the role of a Magazine Doctor, Mike embraced the internet full-time in 1995 and became a "start-up all-rounder" – quite a few start-ups later, he founded Gizmag in 2002. Now he can write again.   All articles by Mike Hanlon
Tags
15 Comments

if they can get it to run for 3 hours on a single charge then it will be an epic win!

David Anderton
19th May, 2010 @ 05:02 am PDT

Sounds like the drive and power pack would be ideal for many other propulsion purposes. A simple streamline housing would allow use as a propulsion unit for scuba and snorkeling. Trolling motors.... Emergency "get home" motors for small boats.....

Small harbor boats, dinghies, sail boats.....

Could this and a small generator be cheaper than gas or diesel kicker motors on sail boats and small sport fishing boats???

Vincent Vangone
19th May, 2010 @ 07:09 am PDT

Excellent. Can't wait to see something like this on the market.

Facebook User
19th May, 2010 @ 07:18 am PDT

You said: "Special Forces and other military groups will no doubt find application for a completely silent watercraft with a top speed of 65 mph and a range of more than three hours". I'd rather said that any mobile going to a top speed pf 65mph is everything but silent. Especialy on the water. But that is true that there shall be much less noise, using an electric motor. Yet, there will be noise. It is not really a "stealth" combat littoral ship :-)

Ariel Dahan
19th May, 2010 @ 08:31 am PDT

Love it. These guys are hitting the target on three or four levels and its great. I wonder if they would be willing to work with us on our Micro-turbine powered electric vehicles? While three hours is enough with a water craft, we need to extend the range on hwy trips. We are expecting 1500 km per manufacturer-standard tank of fuel with multi-fuel capability - Ethanol, E85, Gas or CNG. This would translate well to marine applications.

Muraculous
19th May, 2010 @ 09:07 am PDT

hmmm, but even at 3 hours of use, you're still looking at standard battery charging technology. Unless the batteries for this thing are interchangeable and you get two sets of batteries, you're still looking at an 8 hour down time between your 3 hours of fun! *THAT* certainly isn't fun!

And yes, I know that current battery charging technology can bring a battery up to 80% full in 3 hours, but that requires a 240 volt system, which the United States does not have as standard!

Battery technology is still abhorrently lacking when it comes to actual usability! For a car that is being used as a means to get to a destination, batteries can make sense. Batteries that are used *AT* the destination need to be rethought, especially around the recharging part.

Ed
19th May, 2010 @ 12:27 pm PDT

Any chance you lot could make a stand up one?

FWX is great fun, don't think I'd like to back flip one of those though!

Get the technology, chuck it in a carbon fibre superjet hull and I'll send you someone to test it :P

Craig Jennings
19th May, 2010 @ 06:52 pm PDT

The only drawback would be how long this thing takes to charge after the 3 hours of use. Maybe they can have a removable battery "pod".

V-4-Vendetta
20th May, 2010 @ 01:23 pm PDT

I like the idea, but what happens if tidal currents or rips carry you out past the return distance left in the batteries?

In IC passer-by can loan you a little petrol or diesel, but I can't see anyone passing you an extension cord and following you to shore!

Even if you have a spare battery pack sitting back on the trailer, it is getting there that is the big problem.

The Skud
20th May, 2010 @ 08:04 pm PDT

I would think that some solar panels and perhaps some type of water driven wheel might be employed to capture energy for recharging while in use. There is a lot of energy being wasted in the friction between the hull and the water, harnessing it efficiently could yield some significant results.

Good to see more and more r&d into electric powered vehicles of all types.

Facebook User
21st May, 2010 @ 07:39 am PDT

Tony, that water-driven wheel concept is about the same as sticking a little pin-wheel generator out the window of an EV! Makes no sense! Keep thinking though, that's whats needed!

Will, the tink
21st May, 2010 @ 10:49 pm PDT

Is this drive actually the Pursuit Marine Drive (developed by Pursuit Dynamics some 6 years back) finally up and running? Sure looks like it from the photos. In which case its propulsion owes as much to steam as it does to electricity.

islander
22nd May, 2010 @ 01:26 pm PDT

About 240 volt electrical systems...

Every home in the U.S., in fact every place that is hooked up to the grid, has 240 available. what do you think that electric stoves, electric driers and most electric hot water heaters run on?

Darren Johnson
24th May, 2010 @ 11:22 am PDT

Wicked. I have just started saving for one of these.

ducati_boy
26th May, 2010 @ 08:59 am PDT

woow it is very nice

Fahad Al Sabej
19th September, 2010 @ 03:31 pm PDT
Post a Comment

Login with your gizmag account:

Or Login with Facebook:


Related Articles
Looking for something? Search our 27,793 articles