Wait, how's this different from the original Tesla?
4th April, 2013 @ 2:24 p.m. (California Time)
Looks like this one has a good bit of Lotus DNA.
4th April, 2013 @ 3:21 p.m. (California Time)
Looks exactly like a Lotus Exige to me.
4th April, 2013 @ 4:33 p.m. (California Time)
If just for giggles and grins we put up against a 87 Testarossa at Nurburgring racetrack how many laps would the SP.01 complete before running out of juice.
4th April, 2013 @ 4:51 p.m. (California Time)
always negative Slowburn, it is called evolving technology, things change, that is why Gizmag is here, word I hate, dude why must you always be negative?
4th April, 2013 @ 9:32 p.m. (California Time)
Great technology and performance but it is such an angular and ugly body design, maybe just my taste but to my way of thinking, it could have looked prettier and sexier with smoother lines. Electromotive propulsion is certainly the way to go and with the new generation of air batteries we are looking good for the future.
5th April, 2013 @ 2:38 a.m. (California Time)
Of course it is Lotus body!
Wrong GIZMAG, you should not misinform your readers! For Detroit it is normal.
At least two years ago before the Detroit electric in small Croatia:
5th April, 2013 @ 3:07 a.m. (California Time)
This is such a blatant copy of the Tesla. Why do they think we need another Tesla ??
Detroit would be better off sticking with it's roots and making an electric truck with 500 miles range rather than a poor copy of a not that successful electric sports car with a tiny battery.
How about an RV with a big bank of cells to get you 1000 miles of range? All RV parks have multiple electric hook-ups too, so you can always charge it overnight wherever you end up.
While I'm here, why haven't these people used "4" batteries and four plug points instead of "1"? Wouldn't that 1/4 the charge time? (I can charge 4 phones at home at the same time, why not 4 "different" car batteries?)
5th April, 2013 @ 3:11 a.m. (California Time)
I quite agree Bill, and also a stupidly inane (and wrong) example. An '87 Testarossa has a 28 gallon fuel capacity, and on a track would get about 6mpg, if you're lucky, giving it a range of 168 miles, or about 2 laps less than the SP.01.
5th April, 2013 @ 4:19 a.m. (California Time)
Wait a moment now, this is a very interesting development.
I enjoy driving my Toyota Prius Plug-in. Because it performs much better around cities in full electric mode compared to running on the engine when the small battery is depleted. The lithium-ion battery for this Prius Plug-in weighs 80 kg (180 lb) for just 3.4 kWh), which is grossly under-dimensioned: Electric top speed is limited to 55 mph and range to 10 (winter) or 14 miles (summer).
This Detroit sports car can drive full throttle on a 37 kWh battery which only weighs 300 kg / 660 lb. That is an astounding 10.9 times as much capacity for only 3.75 times the weight. The estimated miles per kWh is probably optimistic or only valid for 55 mph speed though. At full throttle driving it might be depleted in 15 minutes. That is 35 miles on a deserted salt plane or 20+ miles racing on the Nurnberg ring ;-).
Anyhow, this is clearly a big step up for practical driving circumstances. Although I don't know how heavy the battery of the sparsely available Volvo plug-in is ( car weight 4300 lb, electric speed 75 mph, range 31 miles).
5th April, 2013 @ 6:30 a.m. (California Time)
Cool looking car. Range is going up - sweet. Someday we'll have cars doing 400 - 500 miles on a 5 minute charge but probably not in my lifetime.
5th April, 2013 @ 9:20 a.m. (California Time)
All these cars are Lotus body and chassis, including the original Tesla. They are not "copies" they are actually purchased from Lotus
I have to say that lately I have been disappointed in Gizmag coverage they just copy and paste from other sources without doing any fact checking at all
5th April, 2013 @ 9:31 a.m. (California Time)
The reason it looks like a Lotus is because it is a Lotus. The reason it looks like a Tesla is because the Tesla is a Lotus. Both these outfits are buying Lotus bodies and putting their stuff in them.
5th April, 2013 @ 10:03 a.m. (California Time)
Essentially they saw a niche for the car due to the fact Tesla has stopped making their roadster in favor of the new Model S. Ergo the people who for some reason or other couldn't or wouldn't buy the Tesla now have a means of obtaining a doppelganger.
5th April, 2013 @ 10:13 a.m. (California Time)
re; Bill Bennett
Especially when I have to help pay for foolish things.
You seem to have forgotten the high range drop from high acceleration and high speed driving in electric cars. But even assuming you get a 200 mile range while race driving any race over 200 miles in length will be lost by the the long recharge times.
5th April, 2013 @ 10:40 a.m. (California Time)
Yes, yes, it all looks good on paper, sort of, but from WHERE do you get all of the killywiggles needed to charge the battery packs back up again?? WHERE is the infrastructure to handle even just a 5% increase in load on the grid from electric cars? Instead of these kinds of "solutions" for the hand wringing worry warts of the world, why don't we come up with REAL solutions instead??
It IS one bad ass looking car, at least to me anyway. I'd like to power one with a MYT toroidal engine running on natural gas or methane from a community bio-reactor like they have in India. Use solar power via batteries to run the pump that compresses the gas in the carbon fiber/Kevlar tanks.
5th April, 2013 @ 10:42 a.m. (California Time)
Chung gets a 7 for that one. Ugh!
Detroit Electrics were great cars.
Curved glass corners.
Even had glass flower vases long before (80 yrs) the revived Beetle.
Used to be a woman who drove her Detroit Electric to go shopping on South U. She got out in a sprightly way with her black taffeta outfit and high topped boots all laced up. She was gorgeous and smiling but quite a bit older than me so I could only smile back.
Now I know.
5th April, 2013 @ 10:45 a.m. (California Time)
This is so ridiculous.
So,Tesla,GM AND Hennessy cannot build cars and can only
Why don't they just use old VW Beetles and admit that they are just building kit cars....
and not even changing the body?
We are building a Car right now and I would never use another designer's body and call it my own.
I can understand ONE company using the Lotus,maybe...
Call a spade,a spade.
You could have at least used something a little more original...
like maybe just steal Tucker's intended comeback car,
which was a sleek coupe-
the same sort of people destroyed him and his company before,
What can we expect from an industry that has come to despise and destroy originality?
If a truly great car will be built in America,
it will not be corporate America that will build it.
It will be an American-
an individual who can still dream beyond the lawyers,the committees
and all the BS excuses.
As long as the American Ingenuity is still alive,
the American Dream is not dead.
If you listen to corporate America,hollywood and DC-
you will believe that time is already past.
5th April, 2013 @ 11:42 a.m. (California Time)
Colin Chapman(and Colin Dare,too!) must be just laughing his head off somewhere...
He would seem to be having the last laugh and laughing loudest!
Maybe the next corporate clone/clown committee can get original and use a DIFFERENT Lotus-
maybe something really advanced like the Super Seven!
Numerous sources(including the Ariel Atom,really)
STILL sell various versions of those for people to just pick their power
and do "quick-builds" with....
after HOW MANY YEARS?
5th April, 2013 @ 11:56 a.m. (California Time)
Yes, this is a better version of the original tesla-lotus for sure.
Everyone wants to use the lotus Elise/Exige platform because of its modular design and proven road manners. Getting all of this done while only increasing original lotus weight by 200lb is quite amazing really. Kudos.
We were in Detroit three years ago to forward our plan to build a very similar car (too similar is you ask me) using the very same AC motor and 35kW battery pack (using A123 batteries at the time) in the same chassis. Our plan was to mount a redesigned micro-turbine that generated 35kW of constant output on a high speed AC generator mounted to the intake side of the turbine (mounted about where the supercharger was on the original Exige). Expected initial range was 1500km. with a full charge and full tank of fuel and 2000km after a few upgrades. Our weight target was also somewhere between 2400 and 2600lb. We were promised funding but that funding never materialized and our turbine engineers, from Denmark, simply flew home and went to work on other projects...
5th April, 2013 @ 12:55 p.m. (California Time)
It's not surprising that the SP.01 looks like a Lotus. At least five of Detroit Electric's executives used to work at Lotus.
According to the Detroit Electric website, Albert Lam, Chairman and CEO of Detroit Electric is from Lotus. "Before founding Detroit Electric, Albert Lam was the CEO of Lotus Group and Executive Director of Lotus Group International."
And, the President of Detroit Electric, Benjamin Boycott "... had been General Manager of Lotus Engineering China for five years..."
And, Don Graundstadt, the Detroit Electric CEO of North American operations, "... was President of CEO of Lotus Engineering (USA)."
And, Oliver Fong, Detroit Electric Managing Director of Asia Pacific Operations held a "previous role as General Manager for Lotus Engineering's China operation..."
And Willem van der Kooi, Detroit Electric President of European Sales Operation had worked at Lotus (among other makes.)
Reference: Management Biographies at
5th April, 2013 @ 1:32 p.m. (California Time)
This UK built car is far from the fastest as the Germans builders are all bringing electric powered models out as we discuss this - my favourite so far is the 2013 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG E-Cell...With 526 hp and 649 lb-ft of torque—from 0 RPM, and perfomance of 0-62mph in 4.0 seconds and a restricted top speed of 155mph...
Now we have more cars coming soon from BMW, Audi and all the French builders, this Euro-American electric mash up is poorly conceived and the company is obviously not viable as a manufacturer... Where is the dealer network? What about spare parts availability? When Top Gear tested the original Tesla sports car that this is a clone of, it's performance fell far short of what the builder claimed...
I would rather stick to a major manufacturer and sleep easy knowing I had warranty, parts availability and dealer support.
5th April, 2013 @ 3:05 p.m. (California Time)
5th April, 2013 @ 6:58 p.m. (California Time)
They had me right up until I saw the price. No way to justify the price based on the design. Where is Henry Ford when you need him?
5th April, 2013 @ 10:03 p.m. (California Time)
C'mon, you guys. Give it up. It has an integrated Smartphone. I mean, gee...an integrated Smartphone! That has to account for something. Doesn't it?
5th April, 2013 @ 10:21 p.m. (California Time)
Electric cars 'pose environmental threat'
Electric cars might pollute much more than petrol or diesel-powered cars, according to new research.
Electric car factories also emitted more toxic waste than conventional car factories, their report in the Journal of Industrial Ecology said.
6th April, 2013 @ 6:10 a.m. (California Time)
re; James P Pratt
Producing cars with a practical means of locomotion.
6th April, 2013 @ 8:46 a.m. (California Time)
What I really want to know is what happened to the Aptera. I was not sporty or super fast but I was planning on buying one. I even have the money in the bank.
6th April, 2013 @ 11:31 a.m. (California Time)
The positive spin is. The fools who were supposed to be building it do not understand the concept of good enough. They kept redesigning it long after they had a production ready model until they ran out of money.
The negative spin is. The crooks kept making cosmetic changes until they could convincingly explain where the money went, and got away with defrauding their investors.
I lean towards the first but I wont be investing in anything that they do anyway.
7th April, 2013 @ 7:53 a.m. (California Time)
Detroit discovered America again!
"Now the “green monster” develops 600 horsepower, 900 Nm of torque, reaches 100 km/h from standstill in 3.3 sec and a top speed of 280 km/h."
9th April, 2013 @ 3:26 a.m. (California Time)
McClaren is a better deal.
12th April, 2013 @ 8:47 a.m. (California Time)