Hmm, but what bike frame will it fit in? woo hooooo
30th January, 2014 @ 10:12 p.m. (California Time)
I wish I could "like" Sean's comment! ^
30th January, 2014 @ 11:04 p.m. (California Time)
Like! - Sean's comment. And I think it would sit nicely in a Caterham 7
31st January, 2014 @ 12:35 a.m. (California Time)
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw it : )
31st January, 2014 @ 1:16 a.m. (California Time)
One step at a time lads. It is already destined for something that comes as close to being a trike as makes no difference. A bike application can't be that far off. I suppose the only problem then will be finding someone brave enough to ride the thing.
31st January, 2014 @ 2:07 a.m. (California Time)
Mel, that is a great idea. It would be neat to see it in a trike. Perhaps have a racing trike for NASCAR and call it NasTrike?
It would be neat to see it in a small sports car; like the Mazda M5 / Miata. It would also be neat to see it in some of todays very compact cars; Fiat 500, Mini Cooper, Smart Fortwo, etc. :) IMO, it would give the mini car maxi power. :)
31st January, 2014 @ 5:33 a.m. (California Time)
With its narrow form and light weight, this could be a good aircraft engine in a detuned form.
31st January, 2014 @ 6:04 a.m. (California Time)
Personal aircraft applications inevitable! I can't wait.
31st January, 2014 @ 7:03 a.m. (California Time)
How about that unit (detuned maybe) in the BladeGlider? No more range anxiety!
Bruce H. Anderson
31st January, 2014 @ 8:11 a.m. (California Time)
Bikers have to wonder about a 500 cc triple with 135 hp that weighs under 20 kilos.
I wonder if this is a scalable design in terms of weight and friction?
Is there some optimal cylinder size? Bore/Stroke ratio?
31st January, 2014 @ 8:23 a.m. (California Time)
I think Elio should offer this motor as an option.
31st January, 2014 @ 8:55 a.m. (California Time)
Lol Nissan. Formula 1 engines have a minimum weight requirement of 145kg so the comparison is kind of a red herring.
31st January, 2014 @ 9:04 a.m. (California Time)
now that would fit right where the geo engine fits in my plane,mmmmm no more worries about hot and high takeoff power....;)
31st January, 2014 @ 9:28 a.m. (California Time)
put this engine in the Elio :) That would be cool.
31st January, 2014 @ 9:54 a.m. (California Time)
I believe that the "friction" problems are actually "fiction" and are being used to endorse a Nissan lubricant... Amsoil and others have 100% synthetic lubricants now and are totally compatible with high tech engines, plus they make other 100% synthetic fluids and greases for transmissions and bearings in universal joints, etc.
A much less expensive version could help power a hybrid electric version of a Caterham 7/Lotus 7 lightweight 2 seater for around town fun...
31st January, 2014 @ 11:09 a.m. (California Time)
I agree with Matt and EH. It would make a great 200 hp a/c engine. It would need a reduction box to get the prop speed down to 2700 and the blower would be used to normalize rather than boost. Sign me up.
31st January, 2014 @ 2:16 p.m. (California Time)
This thing certainly fires up the imagination - bikes, 'planes, PWC's....how much fun can you have.
I guess price and availability will be the biggest issues
31st January, 2014 @ 3:16 p.m. (California Time)
1 - How many octanes as the petrol they used? 100? 110? More?
2 - Time before overhaul?
3 - Cost of each engine?
31st January, 2014 @ 6:11 p.m. (California Time)
Check out what Henry "Smokey" Yunick did decades ago. Nissan and the rest are only just now catching up.
31st January, 2014 @ 10:47 p.m. (California Time)
How reliable is it?
It would make loads of room under the hood of my truck.
1st February, 2014 @ 6:15 a.m. (California Time)
Hmm,will this fit in my `66 Beetle ?
1st February, 2014 @ 7:49 a.m. (California Time)
Make one half the size and weight and put it in a small commuter and you have a winner.
1st February, 2014 @ 9:59 a.m. (California Time)
my first thoughts were both elio and the smartfortwo car. a 400hp smart car? that would very very cool.
1st February, 2014 @ 11:11 a.m. (California Time)
Anyone know at what rpm this makes 400hp? I'd be interested in seeing a graph of the power band. Is this the redesign of a bike engine or something totally new? Aluminum, magnesium, or something exotic? What are its fuel requirements?
1st February, 2014 @ 12:31 p.m. (California Time)
re: "Nissan will become the first major manufacturer to use a three-cylinder engine in major international motorsport,”
If a road rally can be considered an international motor sport (and they were popular back in the day) then the Saab 93 had 3 cylinders and was running in them back in the 50's with fairly good results. See:
1st February, 2014 @ 3:34 p.m. (California Time)
The world record for a turbo charged Suzuki GSX1300 Busa is 750hp. The Suzuki though has an intergrated gearbox so it's impossible to do a direct comparison. I do wonder though how would the 2 compare for weight if the Nissan motor had the gearbox fitted ?
2nd February, 2014 @ 1:44 p.m. (California Time)
oh my!!!! if this thing became cheap... that would be a bit disruptive me thinks.. in the best way possible
2nd February, 2014 @ 6:59 p.m. (California Time)
if you can 400Hp from a 1500 40Kg then 100Hp from a 20Kg engine doesn't seem unreasonable and if they happen to be fuel efficient, a hybrid electric vehicle would so much more interesting and ultra light aircraft companies would enjoy the new technology, I'm assuming they have incorporated a lot of ceramics, plastic and titanium in its construction.
2nd February, 2014 @ 7:31 p.m. (California Time)
Let me know when I can fabricate all the components on my 3D printer. Until then my next 7 build plans include a 20B...with reservations.
E Morgan Schuster
2nd February, 2014 @ 10:05 p.m. (California Time)
Put 2 of them together and create an awesome but hyper-green, hyper-manageable day-2-day trackcar / supercar
esp. if you applied the kind of tech seen in those modular V8s, where you can drive with only half the engine working when full power isn't needed
90% of day-to-day use would only need one engine and you'd still have a fun sporty car ... hell, with the hybrid capability you could probably do most of your commuting without needing either.
At 40kg the weight penalty of the passive half isn't a big deal
But get to the track and there's 600kW (plus any electric motor!)
You could mount one front and one rear for weight distribution
You could even have the front one drive the front wheels and the rear one drive the rear wheels ... selectable front-wheel, rear-wheel, or four-wheel drive!
2nd February, 2014 @ 10:35 p.m. (California Time)
Is it green also ? Sorry for spoiling the conversation.
3rd February, 2014 @ 12:17 a.m. (California Time)
There was a Smart Roadster that had a custom engine; where they put two of the Fortwos three cylinder engine together to make a V6. If they did that with this, it could be one powerful V6.
I wish there was a 'like' or 'thumbs up' option since I like some of the comments posted for this article. :)
3rd February, 2014 @ 7:13 a.m. (California Time)
With a 145kg minimum engine weight you could put one of these on each wheel for a total of 160kg and 1600hp.
3rd February, 2014 @ 12:07 p.m. (California Time)
I have a nice 12 ft aluminum boat that could use a re-power.
3rd February, 2014 @ 1:21 p.m. (California Time)
OK, I also would like a bike with this engine in it. But a better idea would be to see if we could make a much smaller, less powerful engine, using a very similar design. If 88lbs makes a 400hp engine how small would a 60hp engine be if the same tech was used?
If a hybrid drive system is used even 60hp is overkill if it only spins an alternator to boost the batteries. The potential for seriously wonderful gas mileage might be at hand.
6th February, 2014 @ 12:47 p.m. (California Time)
Notice that he's holding it with the blower and the intake assembly removed. It's not THAT much smaller than your run-of-the-mill- 4 cylinder.
Plus, it sounds like it needs a lot of fuel additives to run efficiently.
And 3 cylinders running smoothly at low RPMs? Forget it.
I would be pleased if it was all true, but I think there's quite a bit of hype installed. If it makes it in one piece through 24 hours of LeMans, that will be impressive.
9th February, 2014 @ 8:23 p.m. (California Time)
looks nice, the possibilities for a retrofit market are awesome for people who have older cars but cant afford to buy a new hybrid or regular fuel efficient vehicle. This Nissan motor is bigger than the one develoed by www.angellabsllc.com Angel labs is develping a 6" motor with 200HP. Thats just a bit bigger than a 2 liter bottle of soda. They've already developed a 14" version that is powerfull enough to replace a massive 18 wheeler diesel engine....14"!
12th February, 2014 @ 12:45 p.m. (California Time)
To get so much power from 1.5L you need high compresion.
With that much compresion and a alu body, it will be useless after one race.
Hope it will stand for a 24h race.
17th February, 2014 @ 5:43 a.m. (California Time)
On a motorbike website a poster argued with my comments that 180hp 1,000cc motorbike engines are boring! I stand by that now, as this truly shows what Japanese engine designers CAN DO!
Yet the emissions "excuses" they keep churning out for motorcycle engines, yet the racing engines keep getting more powerful/efficient/lower revving every rule change lol.
Can us bikers imagine a 350-600cc detuned 120-185 bhp with amazing lightness/reliabilty that could add just 20-25KG in road trims stunning.
19th February, 2014 @ 8:11 p.m. (California Time)
@ EJacob Cornelius
Not all three cylinder engines run like a four cylinder engine missing missing on number four.
20th February, 2014 @ 11 p.m. (California Time)
Possibly the most efficient naturally aspirated petrol engine the world has ever seen
22nd February, 2014 @ 7:10 p.m. (California Time)
It's awesome they managed to cram 400hp into such a small package. I'll be really interested whent they use this same technology to build a 50hp generator engine I can carry in one hand. I'll put my name on that buy list. I've got several Full hybrid designs that could use it. Both full electric and hydraulic hybrids would make the years we spent getting 30-40 miles to the gallon look like the model T years compared to modern cars. Make it burn deisel and I could get another 100 or so folks who would want one a crown funded campeign would blow the lid off any reasonable goal.
3rd July, 2014 @ 7:02 a.m. (California Time)
Where's the flywheel ?
20th August, 2014 @ 2:42 p.m. (California Time)
I want 2 for my 86 Fiero.
25th August, 2014 @ 12:05 p.m. (California Time)
HMMM...............I'm thinking of a reduction drive and a few tweaks for use in an aircraft.
5th September, 2014 @ 8:46 a.m. (California Time)
looks to me like a perfect engine swap in an Elio
30th December, 2014 @ 10:09 a.m. (California Time)
The Nissan seems to be used the comrod.
8th March, 2015 @ 10:43 a.m. (California Time)
I bet the Ultralight Aircraft Industries are going to love this. It could be a game changer with appropriate modification. Hey, Hey for Nissan....
6th September, 2015 @ 11:12 a.m. (California Time)
So put that magic oil in all our cars. Oh, not available in CA?
10th September, 2015 @ 7:20 a.m. (California Time)
The only way to get 400BHP out of a 3 cylinder, 1.5 liter, which would make only 135BHP at best on a regular engine, is either with a Turbo or Supercharger.
Other than that, perhaps 20k RPM redline.
25th November, 2015 @ 7:43 p.m. (California Time)
My Cessna 150 has an engine more than double the size which, when new, pumped out a massive 100HP. Seeing the 2l diesel Mercedes engines going into the new Diamond aircraft, with 180+HP I was struck with a degree of envy! These developments could revolutionise light aircraft power design (not too hard as they are mired in 50 year old technology at the moment) and as many have said already, a hybrid system could be even more impressive. Practically silent flight with electric motors would be so much fun!
30th November, 2015 @ 3:56 p.m. (California Time)
Nice specs, but I have to yawn a little about a hybrid 3 cylinder turbo. Line two of those up and make an inline 6 that weighs 176 lbs and makes 800 HP, and in the right chassis you could achieve mechanical nirvana.
20th December, 2015 @ 5:08 p.m. (California Time)
The nissan engine Its amazing size and hp. It would be the answer for some of the carbon alta light aircraft. My burning question is how much fuel does it goble per hour comparing hp of 400 hp to rotax 80 hp burns approx 11.5 liters per hour
22nd January, 2016 @ 4:02 p.m. (California Time)