Any information that can be abused, almost certainly will be, by either gummint or big business.
1st April, 2011 @ 7:05 a.m. (California Time)
\"...take a moment to consider just how many tweets, blog posts and Facebook updates you fire off on a daily basis.\"
Zilch, zero, or even none. Am I the only one out here without an account on any of those services?
And if people are worried about privacy and being tracked, don\'t forget that this is entirely voluntary. No-one forces you to carry a mobile or use social networking as if it was more important than bread & butter...
Did we all sit around staring at the ceiling in the years before we all had mobiles? (call me a Luddite if you will!)
1st April, 2011 @ 7:11 a.m. (California Time)
It would seem that Big Brother likes our little toys.
1st April, 2011 @ 7:29 a.m. (California Time)
now if we could just RFid tag everyone so that we know the user is the owner, we would have an mate for DNA evidence and a cheating spouse\'s worst nightmare.
1st April, 2011 @ 9:26 a.m. (California Time)
Not my phone. I use a dumbphone -- non-camera version. I keep location service off. I only use my iPT occasionally outside the house, and never for secure stuff.
1st April, 2011 @ 10:28 a.m. (California Time)
agulsin, you\'re not alone. I don\'t have an over-inflated opinion of myself therefore I don\'t feel that there\'s people out there that need an instant update on every (140-character or less) thought that pops into my head. My phone is also off unless I (rarely) need to make a call away from home or under special circumstances. If I\'m out I\'m... out, doing something, and thus don\'t want/need to be on the phone. That\'s the purpose of answering machines and voice mail.
1st April, 2011 @ 11:54 a.m. (California Time)
This is brilliant. Most court cases would be solved in like one day if this was a tool used by police detectives.
1st April, 2011 @ 3:58 p.m. (California Time)
Great way to frame someone...just steal their phone.
1st April, 2011 @ 4:59 p.m. (California Time)
You may be less talkative via social media, but the claim \"zero\" is clearly wrong for both of you. Gizmag is a blog. You both posted here and probably do so other places too... The point isn\'t what can be deduced from the info we willingly share. The trouble is that incredible detail is available when joining a large number of sources. The only way to avoid that is: Have no phone, no internet, no credit card, no motorized vehicle, never enter cities, never use public transport, etc, and only meet people living by the same rules. Some religious groups would qualify. Otherwise living in the wilderness is the only realistic option.
The fact is: All here, and almost everybody else in the modern world can be quite well checked and analysed if the right people want to, who quite often may be the wrong people... Info available to criminals or commercial interests is an obvious problem, and a real one as what might happen will also definitely happen, given time.
A less obvious problem is if the legal authorities get hold of all this detail info: The normal claim is that it\'s no problem as long as one does no wrong. That\'s wrong! Real cases show that too much info about too many makes legal systems twisted. Normal principle is: \"Innocent until proven guilty.\" Well, if a crime occurs, like a robbery, find out who was around at the time, find out who seems to need money, find out spent some just a bit later, etc. Quite rapidly a number of people will look like the probable sinner. They will have to explain why so many indications point to them. Guilty until proven innocent...
1st April, 2011 @ 5:40 p.m. (California Time)
agulsin and alcaide spot on, I do the same, I have a stoopid phone too, have no need for facebook
1st April, 2011 @ 9:02 p.m. (California Time)
It does not matter if you phone is on or off, it still broadcasts your location. Only by doing a battery pull is the phone truly off and not broadcasting.
2nd April, 2011 @ 10:26 a.m. (California Time)
I think most people don\'t care about this whole privacy issue. I think it is mostly the pot heads and junkies that are paranoid. Personally I think it would be really nice to have a website that told all my friends where I was at any given time. Then again I am an honest and open person. I think a lot of crimes would be prevented and a lot of relationships would be better if our daily travels weren\'t secrets. When I was young you almost always told someone where you were going, because there were no cell phones so if they had to reach you they needed to know who to call.
Hell I would pay 10 bucks if my carrier would post the location of my phone on the web.
2nd April, 2011 @ 3:06 p.m. (California Time)
No - the phone does not broadcast your location - it negotiates with the cell towers periodically to figure out what delay it needs to introduce into packets it sends back, so that it\'s incomnig packets don\'t collide with other phones at different distances from the tower. The delay combined with the speed of light can be used to \"triangulate\" your approximate location.
Stick your phone next to your car radio - you can hear it\'s buzz as it periodically does this. You\'ll also note that it doesn\'t do this all that often - so yeah - a map can be built from this data, but it\'s not like a GPS tracklog or anything - it\'s very rough.
Obviously - if you\'re actually talking on the phone, it\'s doing this continuously then, so that \"map\" is going to be more accurate - assuming the phone company records this info - which in Spitz\'s case, it seems they do... tch tch tch...
It\'s also cheap to build fake cell towers, and/or portable cell proxy towers - so it\'s not just phone companies who could gather this data - if they wanted to - a well equipped adversary can do it themselves too.
If you own an old Nokia mobile phone - do the hack to put it into service mode, and you can actually see all this data on the screen, and even triangualte yourself if you want to :-)
3rd April, 2011 @ 6:53 p.m. (California Time)
And if you are using an iPhone, you are sharing information with more than just your carrier! Every iPhone...every single one ever made and ever iPhone that will be made in the future calls home to Apple EVERY DAY and sends Apple a list of things you did with your iPhone for that day, how long you spent on each thing and what you were doing with each thing.
So, Think on that next time you\'re playing Angry Birds!
4th April, 2011 @ 5:04 p.m. (California Time)
Hey Mike Mantion, the pot head and junkies are going to raid your house once they know you\'re out.
4th April, 2011 @ 5:44 p.m. (California Time)
Well, Earlier it was possible to do so by hiring goons to follow you. Now its possible using Cell phones. 20 years from now they will use satellite imaging to do so. When you are walking in many cities you are already seen by many cameras.
Its not going to change. No one will track you unless needed, cause it will generate so much data that these companies can do without. A telephone company already has Tera Bites of data a day to store and process for your billing alone. If they go around storing where ever you go, even for the last 2 days, they have to buy data center the size of two Google. Just because they can, doesnt mean they want to.
The solution is probably to make it illegal to store information pertaining your location without your consent. Once that is done, you cannot present those sources in courts. They could still mis use them like they do with bugs.
18th April, 2011 @ 5:48 p.m. (California Time)