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August 15, 2013

Audi is introducing dynamic turn signals on its new A8

Audi is introducing dynamic turn signals on its new A8

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An obvious improvement on the retractable semaphore devices used on some cars in the first half of last century, turn signals have remained largely unchanged since being patented in 1938 and subsequently adopted by automotive manufacturers. But Audi is claiming to have improved the humble turn signal by using a sequence of lights to indicate the intended turn direction.

Set to be introduced into the Matrix LED headlights in the new A8, Audi’s new dynamic indicators consist of an array of LEDs that could make turning a corner a slightly disco affair. Positioned under each front headlight there are 18 LEDs split into seven segments, while the taillights each contain 24 LEDs split into eight segments.

Audi's new turn signals that light up in sequence to indicate the intended turn direction

When the driver flicks the indicator on, the segments light up sequentially at 20 millisecond intervals in the direction of the turn – that is, from the inside out. After they are all lit, they remain at full intensity for 250 milliseconds, before going dark and repeating the sequence.

Audi believes its new turn signal lights will make it easier for other road users to identify a driver’s turning intention, even at long distances and in poor visibility conditions.

Source: Audi

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32 Comments

Cool! Maybe drivers will finally figure out what that stick on the left side of the wheel is for.

JweenyPwee
16th August, 2013 @ 12:13 am PDT

I like it.

Slowburn
16th August, 2013 @ 12:38 am PDT

Looks like another distraction for other drivers- wish the German makers would do more work on quality control and less in adding pointless complexity that is yet another thing to go wrong.

bergamot69
16th August, 2013 @ 04:49 am PDT

Not a new idea. Look at the 1967 Mercury Cougar as a less sophisticated example.

1173JDP
16th August, 2013 @ 05:41 am PDT

Humph! Might be new to Audi but Ford had 'em on American Mustangs and Cougars nearly 50 years ago. Granted they weren't LEDs because they had not been invented yet but they were eye catching - and that is the whole point.

Grumpyrelic
16th August, 2013 @ 05:59 am PDT

Sequential turn signals are not so new. I think Mercury Cougars had them starting 1967. I also think their was a high end manufacturer like Cadillac or Lincoln that had them earlier too.

Glen Aldridge
16th August, 2013 @ 06:18 am PDT

I believe Ford did this on the Cougar about 50 years ago.

Gary S Greer
16th August, 2013 @ 06:24 am PDT

It's nothing new. Ford did it years ago on the Mercury Cougar.

Bill Wilson
16th August, 2013 @ 06:44 am PDT

Sequential Turn Signals:

1965 - factory fitted on Ford Thunderbirds; Mercury Cougars (1968-1970), Shelby Mustangs (1968-1970), and 1969 Chrysler Imperials.

Joseph Boe
16th August, 2013 @ 07:54 am PDT

Yellow rear turn signals, should be illegal. they blind the driver behind them, do you see yellow dashes in airplanes ? no, there red ! there is a reason.

Jay Finke
16th August, 2013 @ 09:19 am PDT

Good to see that others remember.

The Bean Counters probably axed them.

Like they axed the vital sway bar on the Corvair.

Expletives should follow this.

Lewis M. Dickens III
16th August, 2013 @ 09:35 am PDT

Yes, Cougar etc. Lots of people beat me to it. But in Audi's defense it was just the rear blinkers and not the front. So this is new-ish.

Bruce H. Anderson
16th August, 2013 @ 09:43 am PDT

My 1966 Tbird had these - nothing new.

John P Travis
16th August, 2013 @ 09:54 am PDT

Hey, Jay, airplanes don't use turn signals. I think yellow turn signals should be mandatory, they stand out from brake lights. As for blinding the driver, I've gotten blinded a lot more by headlights than any turn signal.

Current Ford Mustangs have sequential turn lights, not sure if it's standard or optional.

PDS
16th August, 2013 @ 10:10 am PDT

As already mentioned by others Ford had them decades ago and I've even seen them recently on current Mustangs. Don't know if they are factory or not.

Ptodd
16th August, 2013 @ 10:38 am PDT

The Cougar had 3 sequential lights in the back only. With these placed in the front, this is a very different breed of cat (pun intended) and I applaud it. Yellow lights in front and red ones in back would be the best configuration.

Randy

Expanded Viewpoint
16th August, 2013 @ 10:56 am PDT

Darren,

You had better tell Audi to stop claiming this was their invention. As several of us have stated, Mercury was doing this in the late 1960's. Certainly no longer under Patent protection, but it is NOT their invention.

Looks like a nice implementation of the idea though...

Marv Wells
16th August, 2013 @ 11:00 am PDT

I believe the main premise of the article is on sequential turning lights for the front of the car, not the rear that have been around for years as others have posted.

Lots of the modern MOPAR Challenger car owners have added this very aftermarket mod to their vehicles as well as Charger owners.

Here's a nice link to the history of turn signals:

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/history-of-turn-signal.cfm

mvp
16th August, 2013 @ 11:03 am PDT

For my post above ^^, I was referring to aftermarket REAR taillights on the newer Challengers/Chargers.

mvp
16th August, 2013 @ 11:32 am PDT

Yellow was chosen for indicators so that they stood out from red tail lights (2 watt) and brake (18 watt) lights. Also stood out from the front lights.

Red indicators don't stand out from brake lights and if one tail light is out which is very common now (see prius) who knows what is happening.

Sirmike
16th August, 2013 @ 01:00 pm PDT

Sure, Mercury did this back in the 60's, but it was far from simple. These days car companies can program a computer to do this, but the back in the day they needed a series of motors and cams, but that's not all.

Basically, the system works as follows: when the directional lever on the turn signal switch is moved, it completes circuits that select and feed power to the corresponding bank of lights. Power for the lights is fed through the turn signal relay to the sequencer. The sequencer has three cams that, when rotated, depress switches corresponding to the inboard, center, and outboard tail lights. The power is then routed first through the emergency relay (which disconnects all but the center light if the emergency switch is on for Cougars and connects all lights together for T-Birds.) and then to the directional relay. This two-sectioned (right and left) relay routes power through to the selected bank of lights. Since brake lights are not sequenced, the directional relay allows all lights to turn on simultaneously when the brake light power feed is energized. But when the turn signal switch is actuated, the brake light power feed is disconnected and the turn signal feed is activated to allow the directional signal to override the brake lights.

Genius for it's time.

Suspicious Chihuahua
16th August, 2013 @ 01:43 pm PDT

Pretty scary if we've accepted such a level of condescension that we now think it requires animated directional arrows to comprehend a turn signal. What next, maps that tell us where we are and where we're going? ... oh ... uh ... never mind....

Fritz Menzel
16th August, 2013 @ 02:49 pm PDT

@grumpyrelic, they had LEDs back almost 100 years ago, just not a economical option, not very good till the past few years. You are right, 67 Cougars had them , the new Mustangs have them, I do not know why they think this is big news, unless because first for the front turn signals.

MMccollum
16th August, 2013 @ 03:34 pm PDT

My grandfather had the first patent on sequential turn signals back in about 1928 or so. Lester L. Jones.

lon4
16th August, 2013 @ 04:22 pm PDT

@Lewis M. Dickens III

The only thing wrong with the Corvair except the weight of the rear engine caused the car to hit the curb sideways in a skid triggering a rollover was Ralph Nader libeling it while working for a different manufacturer.

Slowburn
17th August, 2013 @ 02:02 am PDT

It's very cute (and obviously not an original idea) but until all cars have them and the stupid drivers too busy texting or holding phones to their faces are forced to use them they are no more than a blip on the radar of improved road safety.

f8lee
17th August, 2013 @ 05:52 pm PDT

already seeing this on new mustangs. how is this new?

Pat Burneson
17th August, 2013 @ 09:59 pm PDT

Hmmm...amber turn signals are the standard. I hope Audi isn't using yellow.

Kerry Smith
18th August, 2013 @ 06:39 am PDT

LOL!... The Corvair safe... and Ralph Nader a bad guy working for another manufacturer!... now THAT's FauxNewTalk at its creepiest! Wow, let's all give it up for Slowburn, folks!

Fritz Menzel
18th August, 2013 @ 05:09 pm PDT

MMccollum,

I don't know where you got the information, but Wikipedia and other sources of historical info give 1962 as the start of LEDs, not 1913:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode

I'll grant you that the early thermionic valve diode emitted some light around 1904, but not from its own operation, only from the heating element for the cathode which enabled it, so those were no more 'LEDs' that any other faintly-glowing hot wire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_diode#History_and_development

dalroth5
19th August, 2013 @ 10:46 am PDT

The new Audi A3/S3 has horrible rear amber turn signals - tiny little slitty things, that can't be seen from behind when braking! They seem to be flooded by the extra bright RED led lights, so anything to improve visibility all around would help. Heres hoping that Audi better spend their R&D in other areas.

Julian Singh
21st August, 2013 @ 08:46 am PDT

Ummm new mustangs have been doing that the Last few years already. Nice try Audi.

Andrew Zuckerman
22nd August, 2013 @ 01:31 am PDT
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